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Sega internal development divisions[edit]

There has been a lot of confusion, in regards to the pages for Sega's internal development divisions in Japan, for CS1 (original AM11/R&D4/AV/NE) and CS2 (original CS3/Saturn-era CS3/R&D8/Sonic Team Ltd./GE1) (both brand names (RGG Studio and Sonic Team) are used whenever Sega makes a Like a Dragon/Yakuza or Sonic the Hedgehog game, for all other projects done by the CS branches (as in non-Sonic/Yakuza games, such as Super Monkey Ball games), the Sega name is solely used. In regards to the last surviving development studio within Sega Fave (AM1), most all of Overworks and WOW Entertainment's history is there despite starting life as two separate Sega divisions (original CS2/R&D7 and original AM1/R&D1) before gaining their studio names during the 2000s and their consolidation back into the Sega fold in 2004. There also the AM3 page which combines info from Hitmaker (original AM3/R&D3) and Sega Rosso. The question is how can we organize this, to specify division name and to avoid this mess in the future? VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 15:11, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

However, the reason why Sonic Team and RGG Studio are used as brand names rather than official division names is that the divisions can work on other non-Sonic/Yakuza projects but only under the Sega banner. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 18:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004: As I’ve said on the other talk pages you’ve posted this to, where is your source on this? And not “the logo isn’t on a website or a box” but a source that follows WP:V. Your statement isn’t even true considering that Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz HD and Super Monkey Ball Banana Mania are both mentioned on the RGG website. As other users have pointed out to you, there’s also WP:COMMONNAME, where using the Sonic Team and RGG names seems to fit the best. VenFlyer98 (talk) 20:42, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Check the careers site for Sega Corporation and the Sega Group, this might be reliable and verifiable since there is a section in regards to the development divisions as in: Div 1 (RGG), Div 2 (Sonic Team), Div 3 (PSO games) and Div 4 (mobile games and GaaS), the careers site also dosen't mention the studio brand names for the big two (CS1 & CS2). VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 21:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I’d much rather see this kind of info in a secondary source rather than a primary one. It’s easy to get caught up and have OR start to slip in off of just primaries. Red Phoenix talk 12:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004: This does not meet WP:V or WP:RS, this is WP:OR. You need an independent secondary source, not Sega’s website or any part of it. RGG and Sonic Team are the common names, they meet WP:COMMONNAME so the pages should stay the way they are. VenFlyer98 (talk) 04:06, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's still my belief that these suggestions would violate WP:COMMONNAME. Sergecross73 msg me 19:04, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]