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Does anyone have examples of Commonwealth countries that actually uses the "HMS" designation. I thought only the UK uses "HMS". Samw 14:37, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Since HMAS links to this page, should the link be removed? aubrey 22:32, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That was in fact true of all the links in that list except HMCS; I have removed all of them. Foxmulder 02:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When did HMTBD (His Majesty's Torpedo Boat Destroyer) go out of use? I've seen it in old Jane's books from pre-1914 for sure. --Tkinias 13:48, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

HMS use in monarchies[edit]

In the first paragraph of the article I wanted to clarify that the prefix (or its equivalent) isn't unique to the British navy. Someone had already made the remark about the Swedish navy, although incorrectly stating that the prefix was only used in translations to English. The prefix is in fact used in Swedish as well, and its short version (HMS) just happens to be spelled the same way.

Also, I like to think that the English Wikipedia is international, and as such I think it's relevant to point out that this prefix is not unique to the Commonwealth (avoid POV).

dsandlund 23:39, October 17 2005 (CET)

Format[edit]

Which is the correct form, "HMS" or "H.M.S."? I've seen it written both ways on the Wiki - sometimes, in the case of ship articles, with the former in the page title, and the latter used in the article text - 81.151.186.81 18:18, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've always seen it written "HMS" and I live in a very navy-oriented area. Birddrz 20:44, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to the US Navy, "H.M.S." was the early form used in previous centuries. Mauls 13:02, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate use of HBMS[edit]

I'm curious why the link that was added for an alternate use of HBMS was reverted. I can't think of any rationale for its removal that doesn't involve an alternate solution (disambiguation page, etc.) HydroMagi 19:30, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Use of HBMS. The article says it was "formerly" used (implying that it is no longer), rather changing the meaning of the cited "In earlier times this was also seen as HBMS". I am not at all sure that it is obsolete, but cannot lay hands on an authoritative source one way or the other. The important point is that it was only ever intended to be used in the context of international relations, not in a purely British context - for example, letters from a British warship to a foreign authority (particularly in the case of another monarchy), or references in international treaties. I would have thought that that would still apply, but recent documents of this type are rarely in the public domain. Maybe it's tucked away in standard RN guidance on protocol. Davidships (talk) 22:38, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

HMHV / HMM[edit]

Having checked Google carefully, all references to HMHV appear to be either from Wikipedia (or mirrors) in various languages, or referring to some kind of game/story about the HMHV Surprise. Similarly for HMM, the only non-WP usage was on a page stating that the claimed usage on WP was wrong, and monitors were not named HMM in the First World War. As HMHV and HMM are not verifiable, I've removed them as per WP policy. Mauls 13:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

HMHV stands for "His/Her Majesty's Hired Vessel

Belize[edit]

I can't for the life of me find anything on the Belizean navy - though presumably they would also use HMBS. Anyone? --Cpt ricard (talk) 04:41, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It would have been British Honduras then - the Belize name came after independence. Ian Dunster (talk) 13:57, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
yes, but Belize is still part of the commonwealth, so the naming convention of ships would also change. I just want something official to confirm this.--Cpt ricard (talk) 22:40, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect it would depend on whether Belize actually has any ships/patrol craft or whether they rely on the RN. It might be worth you e-mailing the Belizian authorities to find out. Ian Dunster (talk) 11:05, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HMTS -> HMTSS[edit]

HMTS -> Don't exists
HMTSS -> His/Her Majesty's Tuvalu Surveillance Ship
--Maltrobat (talk) 14:08, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian designation[edit]

Should it be noted that Canada make joint official use of two designation derived from HMS (HMCS and NCSM) due to french/english bilingualism? --Guillaume Hébert-Jodoin (talk) 20:41, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Does prefixes change with the Sovereign?[edit]

For example, when HMS Vanguard was commissioned in 1946, I suppose the prefix HMS stood for "His Majesty's Ship" as in King George VI's reign. Did the full spelling change anyhow after Queen Elizabeth II ascended the throne in 1952? In a broader sense, does the full spelling of HMS change with the gender of the soverign for those ships no longer in existence?--Medalofdead (talk) 15:56, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 September 2022[edit]

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 01:56, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

His Majesty's Ship → HMS (ship prefix) – I can't find any Wikipedia policy to support this, but it just feels wrong that an article's title changes depending on who holds an office. (Maybe someone can find some other examples and set me straight.) As for the proposed title, HMS (ship prefix) still unambiguously identifies the subject, and the first sentence of the lede would give the initialism's meaning. And there's no problems with leaving an intialism/acronym unexplained in an article's title, see FAQ, FYI, and BYOB. Brightgalrs (/braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/)[ᴛ] 20:50, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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