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"The driver applied the brakes, and when he attempted to put the car into reverse gear he accidentally stalled the engine close to where Princip was standing.[95]"
I suggest that this line is changed to "The driver applied the break, disengaged the engine and prepared to have the car pushed back onto the Appel Quay close to where Princip was standing" or something of that nature.
I suggest this beacause the 1911 Gräf und Stift 28/32 PS has no reverse gear, and thus would have been impossible for the driver to accidentally stall the engine changing gear into it. This is explained on page 374 of The Sleepwalkers: How Europe went to war in 1914 by Christopher Clark ISBN 978-0-141-02782-1. I also suggest that citation [95] is changed to cite this book which explains this point. This book is already a cited reference. Many thanks. CatoBarthas (talk) 12:29, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: there appears to be some dispute in sources about whether the car had a reverse gear. This New York Times article quoted an expert at the museum where the car is stored, who said the car does have a reverse gear, but "takes a while to shift the gear because of the technical standards of this time." Then this article in The Telegraph by author Tim Butcher says, We have been told that: Princip jumped on the running board of the Archduke’s limousine to take his shot, the Archduke’s wife was pregnant when she died, the shooting happened on the anniversary of their marriage, the car did not have a reverse gear, the Archduke caught the grenade thrown earlier and tossed it away safely, and Princip stopped to eat a last sandwich at the café on the corner before emerging to take his shot. It’s all myth. (my emphasis) Butcher is the author of The Trigger: Hunting the Assassin Who Brought the World to War, and the above quote seems to be a verbatim copy of a passage of the same book--which is, incidentally, cited three times in this article.
TL;DR: we may be in a "sources disagree on x" scenario, but based on the strength of the expert at the museum who has physical access to the actual car, I think I'll leave the article text as-is. Xan747 (talk) 20:03, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Understandable, thanks for correcting this. I had not seen that article about the car at the museum. The book that I mentioned does not reference its claim about the absence of a reverse gear, so I'm not sure where this myth could have originated. CatoBarthas (talk) 12:46, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
greatings there, i request that it should be changed from 109 since the assasinaition to 110, cause yesterday well it was anaversary, and yea nothing much else
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Not done: there appears to be some dispute in sources about whether the car had a reverse gear. This New York Times article quoted an expert at the museum where the car is stored, who said the car does have a reverse gear, but "takes a while to shift the gear because of the technical standards of this time." Then this article in The Telegraph by author Tim Butcher says, 
Already done The time since the request is updated automatically by the software behind Wikipedia. See WP:PURGE for future cases like this.. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:21, 29 June 2024 (UTC)