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Discussion for Today

This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_October_4

October 4

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Fictional terrestrial planets

Propose merging Category:Fictional terrestrial planets to Category:Fictional planets

Nominator's rationale: Whether a planet is made of rock is rarely ever defining to a fictional work, as compared to a real-life planet, and is typically the default for notable fictional planets. They could be made of glass, steel or unobtainium and it would essentially make no difference. Therefore this category is fairly unnecessary and should be merged. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:10, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:44, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Provisional governments in Indonesia

Propose deleting Category:Provisional governments in Indonesia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Name of category does not match the (only) subcategory. Also, there has only been one provisional government n Indonesia, so this category is unnecessary Davidelit (Talk) 03:22, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, every country was own Provisional governments, that for every user detect how the sentral of goverment controled as centralized system. Putu Suhartawan (talk) 03:27, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete accompanied by unrelenting creation of red link categories in the Indonesian project shows a lack of clarity as to english meanings, and already existing categories and subject. Strongly suggest there is inadequate demonstration as to any understanding WP:ABOUT and WP:NOT JarrahTree 04:04, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Futhermore - since nomination editing and adding to the category show a very limited understanding what the meaning in english actually is in the context that the nominator has stated above.JarrahTree 04:11, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, now I see it. "Provisional" instead of "provincial." -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 05:47, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, the three articles are entirely unrelated. One is about before the Provisional Constitution of 1950, one article is about an institution based on that constitution and one article is about East Timor. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:LGBT+ Wikipedians

Propose renaming Category:LGBT+ Wikipedians to Category:LGBTQ+ Wikipedians

Nominator's rationale: The parent article has been renamed to LGBTQ (RM discussion) last month and the related WikiProject has now also been renamed to WP:LGBTQ+ (RM discussion of the community) after another discussion, so following WP:CONSUB and WP:C2D, I propose the user category also follows suit, aligning with the sentiment of the WikiProject that the community has embraced LGBTQ+. Raladic (talk) 03:08, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename, I can't see any reason why this category would have a different sort of name than established in mainspace. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:52, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:11th-century Somali people

Propose renaming Category:11th-century Somali people to Category:11th-century Somalian people
Propose renaming Category:10th-century Somali people to Category:10th-century Somalian people

Nominator's rationale: Opposed for speedy.C2C: parent is Somalian people by century, but @Marcocapelle: makes good points that "Category:Ethnic Somali people and the country Somalia did not exist yet in the 11th and 12th century. " Mason (talk) 23:16, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a bit problematic because there is also Category:Ethnic Somali people and the country Somalia did not exist yet in the 11th and 12th century. On top of that it is unclear whether Somalian would include or exclude current Somaliland. So I think it is better to re-parent these categories, move them from the Somalian to the Ethnic Somali tree. Also rename the 13th to 19th century categories to "Somali". For example in the 13th century category there is someone in the Maldives who was probably an ethnic Somali. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 00:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:SpaceX astronauts

Propose renaming Category:SpaceX astronauts to Category:SpaceX-flown astronauts or something similar, per discussion on the Category talk:SpaceX astronauts.

Nominator's rationale: Prior to September 2024, all astronauts listed in Category:SpaceX astronauts had simply flown on a SpaceX capsule launched on a SpaceX Falcon 9 launch vehicle. Now, with the completion of the recent private spaceflight mission Polaris Dawn, two SpaceX employees—Sarah Gillis and Anna Menon—have been astronauts (while employed by SpaceX) on this recent commercial spaceflight. It would be confusing to categorize the two of them as merely the sense of astronauts who have flown on SpaceX equipment, as they are also SpaceX employees, and are categorized in Category:SpaceX employee astronauts. (more emplyees are planned to fly on future spaceflights). N2e (talk) 17:46, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - the current tree Astronauts by space program > SpaceX astronauts > SpaceX employee astronauts makes sense. If anything, Category:SpaceX employee astronauts (2) is unnecessary since 1) it is simply an overlap of Category:SpaceX people (21) & Category:SpaceX astronauts (38), and 2) is not (yet) needed for diffusing either of its parents, but that can be overlooked if it grows quickly enough. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 14:58, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: More participation needed to form consensus
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 04:24, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 00:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Toxic enzymes

Propose deleting Category:Toxic enzymes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This category isn't very helpful with only one page in it. Mason (talk) 20:16, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's also not meaningfully different from Category:Protein toxins and can be merged/redirected into that. ― Synpath 11:43, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Related: while updating Category:Protein toxins with Botulinum toxin I found Category:Biological toxin weapons - a bizarrely named, small category with mostly protein toxins within it. I removed the small molecule toxins from it and think it should be merged to Category:Protein toxins. ― Synpath 12:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Should we merged?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 00:54, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Typo in my last relist comment. I meant to ask "Should we merge?"
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 00:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My knowledge of molecular biology is very limited, but considering that Category:Enzymes is part of the tree of Category:Proteins it sounds reasonable to merge and possibly redirect the nominated category to Category:Protein toxins. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:58, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Indonesian bureaucrat

Propose deleting Category:Indonesian bureaucrat (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Absurdly general (and ungrammatical) category, potentially encompassing 10 percent of the population Davidelit (Talk) 00:24, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete 280 million people - not practical to even consider potential issues, the existential issues arising from a singular designation is not what wikipedia is about JarrahTree 00:49, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, we need the real data about how the bureaucrat doing coruption culture for being normal, the realiable source is the best think for learning how the coruption growth. Putu Suhartawan (talk) 01:42, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - wikipedia categories are for an on line encyclopedia, not a WP:SOAPBOX. A closer examination of existing categories, and a more clearer understanding what WP:ABOUT might mean, the new categories being created are superfluous, and not help for what an average reader might learn about Indonesian politics or culture; the clarification of what already exists in the Indonesian project might help. JarrahTree 04:18, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, there is no meaningful distinction with Category:Government of Indonesia. The two subcategories are already in that tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:01, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Tourist attractions in Salem

Propose deleting Category:Tourist attractions in Salem (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: IS empty. The one entry was not relevant, so was deleted Isoceles-sai (talk) 08:06, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category has been emptied. You know, Isoceles-sai, you can tag empty categories CSD C1 and that won't entail a week-long (or longer) discussion. There is really no point of having a discussion about an empty category. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:19, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category is added in multiple articles which is relevant to the category. So no need to delete the category. MVDR Enthusiast (talk) 14:50, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP. Looks like the Category was under construction. Sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isoceles-sai (talk • contribs) 16:26, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Tourist attractions in Salem, Tamil Nadu, aligning with parent and sibling categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep: There is already a category of Category:Tourist attractions in Salem district and most of the entries added to the new category are a copy paste from the old category. Most of it is located in Salem district rather than the town/city itself and has been deleted. Weak keep as there are still a few entries relevant to it and I have added it as a subcategory to the original category. Magentic Manifestations (talk) 06:26, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, then it should be merged to Category:Tourist attractions in Salem district rather than renamed. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - If kept, it should be moved over to Category:Tourist attractions in Salem, Tamil Nadu to both align with its parent and sibling categories, and to avoid confusion for other Salems, such as Salem, Massachusetts. (Oinkers42) (talk) 18:09, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 00:23, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:The 100 most prominent Serbs according to a committee of academicians at the Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts

Propose deleting Category:The 100 most prominent Serbs according to a committee of academicians at the Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This is an overcategorisation that duplicates an existing list (The 100 most prominent Serbs) and is an example of an essentially arbritrary WP:TOPTEN, and is not a defining characteristic of the included persons. We definitely do not need both a list and a category here. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:10, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:11, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]