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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
Scope
[edit]CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions
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Discussions awaiting closure
[edit]- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 28 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 27 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 24 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 23 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 14 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 7 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 4 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 29 (1 open)
See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.
How to use CfD
[edit]Nomination procedure
[edit]Twinkle
[edit]You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, see § MassCFD.
MassCFD
[edit]You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD to automatically make mass nominations.
Manual nominations
[edit]I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types
[edit]I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors
[edit]In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 August 7|CfD section name}} ~~~~
or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}}
to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}}
for this.
Closing procedure
[edit]After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
Redirecting categories
[edit]In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]
), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can create a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}}
to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Speedy renaming and merging
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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
[edit]The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
[edit]- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
[edit]- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
[edit]Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
[edit]- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
[edit]- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
[edit]- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
[edit]When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
[edit]- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
[edit]If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 00:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 137 open requests (. )
Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour waiting period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests
[edit]Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Fictional characters from Mexico City to Category:Fictional people from Mexico City – C2C. Mclay1 (talk) 12:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Mythology of central Greece to Category:Mythology of Central Greece – C2A: per Central Greece (geographic region) and subcategories of Category:Central Greece. Mclay1 (talk) 11:34, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:WikiProject Magazine templates to Category:WikiProject Magazines templates – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:01, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:WikiProject Serbia/Belgrade to Category:Belgrade task force – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 10:57, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Nations stubs to Category:First Nations in Canada stubs – C2C. Mclay1 (talk) 10:02, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Nations organizations by province or territory to Category:First Nations organizations in Canada by province or territory – C2C. Mclay1 (talk) 09:27, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Nations organizations to Category:First Nations organizations in Canada – C2C. Mclay1 (talk) 09:26, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Nations history to Category:First Nations history in Canada – C2C. Mclay1 (talk) 09:24, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Nations governments to Category:First Nations governments in Canada – C2C. Mclay1 (talk) 09:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Nations geography to Category:First Nations geography of Canada – C2B. Mclay1 (talk) 09:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Nations education to Category:First Nations education in Canada – C2B. Mclay1 (talk) 09:21, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:First Nations by province or territory to Category:First Nations in Canada by province or territory – C2C: per Category:Indigenous peoples in Canada by province or territory and Category:First Nations in Canada as moved in recent CfD. Mclay1 (talk) 09:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:St. Benedict's Ravens football seasons to Category:Benedictine Ravens football seasons – C2C Jweiss11 (talk) 06:23, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:1825 disasters in Germany to Category:1825 disasters in the German Confederation – C2C: Per Category:1825 in the German Confederation. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:43, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1820s disasters in Germany to Category:1820s disasters in the German Confederation – C2C: Per Category:1820s in the German Confederation. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:41, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lewis Flyers women's swimers to Category:Lewis Flyers women's swimmers – C2A: Missing an M Crowsus (talk) 00:53, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1998–99 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:1998–99 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season – per C2C and C2D KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 21:11, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1999–2000 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:1999–2000 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2000–01 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2000–01 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2001–02 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2001–02 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2002–03 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2002–03 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2003–04 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2003–04 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2004–05 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2004–05 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2005–06 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2005–06 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2006–07 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2006–07 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2007–08 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2007–08 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2008–09 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2008–09 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2009–10 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2009–10 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2010–11 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2010–11 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2011–12 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2011–12 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2012–13 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2012–13 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2013–14 NCAA Division I women's hockey by team to Category:2013–14 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey by team
- Category:2014–15 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2014–15 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2015–16 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2015–16 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2016–17 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2016–17 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2017–18 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2017–18 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2018–19 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2018–19 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2019–20 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2019–20 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2020–21 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2020–21 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2021–22 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2021–22 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2022–23 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2022–23 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:2023–24 NCAA Division I women's hockey season to Category:2023–24 NCAA Division I women's ice hockey season
- Category:Films directed by Douglas Aarniokoski to Category:Films directed by Doug Aarniokoski – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 19:44, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Hawaii to Category:Lieutenant governors of Hawaii – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Idaho to Category:Lieutenant governors of Idaho – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Illinois to Category:Lieutenant governors of Illinois – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Indiana to Category:Lieutenant governors of Indiana – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Iowa to Category:Lieutenant governors of Iowa – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Kansas to Category:Lieutenant governors of Kansas – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Kentucky to Category:Lieutenant governors of Kentucky – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:51, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Louisiana to Category:Lieutenant governors of Louisiana – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:50, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Maryland to Category:Lieutenant governors of Maryland – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:49, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of colonial Massachusetts to Category:Lieutenant governors of colonial Massachusetts – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:48, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Massachusetts to Category:Lieutenant governors of Massachusetts – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Michigan to Category:Lieutenant governors of Michigan – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Minnesota to Category:Lieutenant governors of Minnesota – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Mississippi to Category:Lieutenant governors of Mississippi – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Missouri to Category:Lieutenant governors of Missouri – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Montana to Category:Lieutenant governors of Montana – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:44, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Nebraska to Category:Lieutenant governors of Nebraska – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:43, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Nevada to Category:Lieutenant governors of Nevada – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:43, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Deputy Governors of East New Jersey to Category:Deputy governors of East New Jersey – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Deputy Governors of West New Jersey to Category:Deputy governors of West New Jersey – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of New Jersey to Category:Lieutenant governors of New Jersey – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of New Mexico to Category:Lieutenant governors of New Mexico – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:40, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of New York (state) to Category:Lieutenant governors of New York (state) – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of North Carolina to Category:Lieutenant governors of North Carolina – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:39, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of North Dakota to Category:Lieutenant governors of North Dakota – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Ohio to Category:Lieutenant governors of Ohio – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Oklahoma to Category:Lieutenant governors of Oklahoma – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:35, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Pennsylvania to Category:Lieutenant governors of Pennsylvania – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:35, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Lieutenant Governors of Rhode Island to Category:Lieutenant governors of Rhode Island – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Titles of Mary to Category:Titles of Mary, mother of Jesus – C2B. Mclay1 (talk) 00:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Pushkinska Street, Odesa to Category:Italiiska Street, Odesa – Due to the name of the main article, Italiiska Street, Odesa}} Yuriy Kvach (talk) 15:57, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- The nominator moved the article today without any discussion (as they did with many other Ukrainian articles). This makes the category ineligible for speedy. Ymblanter (talk) 20:49, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Indiana State Auditors to Category:Indiana state auditors – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:52, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of Iowa to Category:State auditors of Iowa – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:46, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiEditor50: this should be Category:Iowa auditors of state C2D per Iowa Auditor of State. Speedy processes can be used to kill two birds with one stone. Please check the others! – Fayenatic London 21:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- That'd be fine. How do I change my suggested rename? WikiEditor50 (talk) 16:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you can be bothered, strike through the current name, and state the replacement name. Or just change the target name on this page and the rationale, e.g. the next one below to Category:Kentucky auditors of public accounts C2D per Kentucky Auditor of Public Accounts. – Fayenatic London 20:02, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- That'd be fine. How do I change my suggested rename? WikiEditor50 (talk) 16:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiEditor50: this should be Category:Iowa auditors of state C2D per Iowa Auditor of State. Speedy processes can be used to kill two birds with one stone. Please check the others! – Fayenatic London 21:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of Kentucky to Category:State auditors of Kentucky – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:44, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please change this to Category:Kentucky auditors of public accounts instead, as per the main article Kentucky Auditor of Public Accounts (C2D) WikiEditor50 (talk) 11:24, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Louisiana State Auditors to Category:Louisiana state auditors – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Maine State Auditors to Category:Maine state auditors – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:41, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Michigan Auditors General to Category:Michigan auditors general – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of Mississippi to Category:State auditors of Mississippi – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of Missouri to Category:State auditors of Missouri – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Nebraska Auditors of Public Accounts to Category:Nebraska auditors of public accounts – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:33, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Could this be changed to Category:Nebraska state auditors per C2D? Main page is Nebraska State Auditor WikiEditor50 (talk) 16:39, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:North Dakota State Auditors to Category:North Dakota state auditors – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Pennsylvania Auditors General to Category:Pennsylvania auditors general – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of North Carolina to Category:State auditors of North Carolina – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Could this be changed to Category:North Carolina state auditors per C2D? Main page is North Carolina State Auditor. WikiEditor50 (talk) 16:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of Minnesota to Category:State auditors of Minnesota – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Could this be changed to Category:Minnesota state auditors per C2D? Main page is Minnesota State Auditor. WikiEditor50 (talk) 16:35, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of Ohio to Category:State auditors of Ohio – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:04, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Could this be changed to Category:Ohio state auditors per C2D? Main page is Ohio State Auditor. WikiEditor50 (talk) 16:34, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of Oklahoma to Category:State auditors of Oklahoma – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 05:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Delaware State Auditors to Category:Delaware state auditors – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 04:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of Colorado to Category:State auditors of Colorado – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 04:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Controllers of California to Category:State controllers of California – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 04:35, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Could this be changed to Category:California state controllers per C2D? Main page is California State Auditor.WikiEditor50 (talk) 16:32, 1 August 2024 (UTC)- @WikiEditor50: I guess you mean changing to Category:California state auditors? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, made a mistake. The category should be Category:California state controllers per the main page California State Controller (C2D). WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:30, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiEditor50: I guess you mean changing to Category:California state auditors? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of Arkansas to Category:State auditors of Arkansas – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 04:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Could this be changed to Category:Arkansas state auditors per C2D? Main page is Arkansas State Auditor. WikiEditor50 (talk) 16:31, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of Alabama to Category:State auditors of Alabama – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 04:32, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Comptrollers General of South Carolina to Category:Comptrollers general of South Carolina – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 04:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Could this be changed to Category:South Carolina comptrollers general per C2D? Main page is South Carolina Comptroller General. WikiEditor50 (talk) 16:29, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of South Dakota to Category:State auditors of South Dakota – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 04:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of Vermont to Category:State auditors of Vermont – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 04:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:State Auditors of Wyoming to Category:State auditors of Wyoming – C2A: MOS:JOBTITLES WikiEditor50 (talk) 04:25, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Could this be changed to Category:Wyoming state auditors per C2D? Main page is Wyoming State Auditor.WikiEditor50 (talk) 16:27, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Opposed requests
[edit]- Category:Worms (series) games to Category:Worms (series) – C2D. It didn't automatically add this one for me... QuantumFoam66 (talk) 05:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose – Correct me if I'm wrong, Marcocapelle, but I believe Marcocapelle's proposal in the first CfD was to keep Category:Worms (series) games at its current name so it remains in the correct video games category trees. This was misinterpreted by other users and then the second CfD proposal was not clear. This should go back to a full discussion because the CfD procedure was a bit of a mess. Mclay1 (talk) 15:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- It also does not fit C2D or any other speedy criteria. Mclay1 (talk) 02:20, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose – Correct me if I'm wrong, Marcocapelle, but I believe Marcocapelle's proposal in the first CfD was to keep Category:Worms (series) games at its current name so it remains in the correct video games category trees. This was misinterpreted by other users and then the second CfD proposal was not clear. This should go back to a full discussion because the CfD procedure was a bit of a mess. Mclay1 (talk) 15:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Category:World War II strategic bombing of Japan to Category:Air raids on Japan – Category follows main article name, also air raids encompass all. There is a sub-category already for just the bombings. Gryffindor (talk) 11:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. What speedy criteria? This category follows Category:World War II strategic bombing. Gonnym (talk) 19:21, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Firebombings in Japan to Category:Bombing of Japan – Grammatically correct term, see also "Category:Bombing of Chongqing" or "Bombing of South-East Asia (1944–1945)" as format examples. Gryffindor (talk) 11:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. No speedy criteria. Also parent is Category:Firebombings. Gonnym (talk) 19:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Gryffindor: you may consider moving these two nominations to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:18, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. No speedy criteria. Also parent is Category:Firebombings. Gonnym (talk) 19:22, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:12th-century Scottish Roman Catholic clergy to Category:12th-century Scottish Roman Catholic priests – C2C: The norm is that XXXth-century FOOian Roman Catholic clergy should be named XXXth-century FOOian Roman Catholic priests. There was more recent movement on this, but I can only seem to dig up this older one Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_February_11 Mason (talk) 05:29, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: the discussion you referred to rather has a (weak) inclination against priests categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, I wanted to be transparent. Do you remember the more recent one that collapsed the priests and clergy category? Mason (talk) 21:43, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I do not remember. But as bishops are still priests, I cannot see the need to have both a Priests and a Clergy category. And we do need Clergy as a parent of Bishops. The only exception is Deacons, who are clergy but not priests. But they occur in articles very exceptionally. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:20, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- >I cannot see the need to have both a Priests and a Clergy category.
- I agree with you. This is literally the only FOO-century FOO Roman Catholic clergy category. You're welcome to nominate the entire bunch to be FOOian clergy, but leaving this one isolated is just annoying. Mason (talk) 19:40, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I do not remember. But as bishops are still priests, I cannot see the need to have both a Priests and a Clergy category. And we do need Clergy as a parent of Bishops. The only exception is Deacons, who are clergy but not priests. But they occur in articles very exceptionally. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:20, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, I wanted to be transparent. Do you remember the more recent one that collapsed the priests and clergy category? Mason (talk) 21:43, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: the discussion you referred to rather has a (weak) inclination against priests categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedia formatting and function templates by subject area to Category:Wikipedia utility templates by subject area – C2C after Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_May_28#Category:Wikipedia_formatting_and_function_templates – Fayenatic London 19:53, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Association football formatting and function templates to Category:Association football utility templates
- Category:Astronomy formatting and function templates to Category:Astronomy utility templates
- Category:Solar System formatting and function templates to Category:Astronomy utility templates
- Category:Minor planet formatting and function templates to Category:Minor planet utility templates
- Category:Automotive formatting and function templates to Category:Automotive utility templates
- Category:Formula E formatting and function templates to Category:Formula E utility templates
- Category:Formula One formatting and function templates to Category:Formula One utility templates
- Category:Chemistry formatting and function templates to Category:Chemistry utility templates
- Category:Currency formatting and function templates to Category:Currency utility templates
- Category:Economics formatting and function templates to Category:Economics utility templates
- Category:Transport formatting and function templates to Category:Transport utility templates
- Category:Norway rail transport formatting and function templates to Category:Norway rail transport utility templates
- Category:Virginia state highway formatting and function templates to Category:Virginia state highway utility templates
- I propose Category:Wikipedia formatting and function templates by subject area to Category:Wikipedia utility templates by topic, similar to subcategories of Wikipedia templates by task and topic. Side note: I really don't understand the meaning of the word "utility" here. Surely, all created templates are meant to have some utility? It sounds so generic, I wouldn't mind upmerging the whole tree of Wikipedia utility templates. —andrybak (talk) 01:10, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with Andrybak. Looked at a few at the minor planet category. Any link template should be under a sub-category of Category:Link templates. "Utility" is so generic that it is unhelpful, as is the previous "function templates". Probably best to check the contents of each category and see if they are all of a same type, find out which parent correctly fit that type and rename to match. Gonnym (talk) 07:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london: if you agree with Category:Wikipedia utility templates by topic this discussion can probably be relisted for speedy. Or the discussion may be moved to full CfD to address the "utility" issue. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
[edit]- Category:Italy Cabinet templates to Category:Italy cabinet templates – C2C within Category:Cabinet templates. – Fayenatic London 13:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Kazakh Cabinet navigational boxes to Category:Kazakhstan cabinet navigational boxes – Reason – Fayenatic London 13:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cabinets of Mexico templates to Category:Mexico cabinet templates – Reason – Fayenatic London 13:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hold these three pending possible change to "navigational boxes" per CFD Ju;y 31. – Fayenatic London 16:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prince Rui to Category:Prince Rui (瑞) – C2D & to distinguish from Category:Prince Rui (睿). Yinweiaiqing (talk) 17:11, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Prince Yi(怡) to Category:Prince Yi (怡) – C2D Yinweiaiqing (talk) 17:04, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Put on hold the above two. I've sent the articles to RM as using non-English text in a title for disambiguation isn't helpful. Gonnym (talk) 19:30, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
[edit]- Category:Baseball people by Canadian province or territory to Category:Canadian baseball players by province or territory – C2C. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:45, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. That isn't the standard. Category:Sportspeople by Canadian province or territory and sport shows that it's "Canadian province or territory", which makes sense, as it's not a random province or territory but a Canadian one. Gonnym (talk) 19:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:55, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. That isn't the standard. Category:Sportspeople by Canadian province or territory and sport shows that it's "Canadian province or territory", which makes sense, as it's not a random province or territory but a Canadian one. Gonnym (talk) 19:18, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Baseball people by prefecture in Japan to Category:Japanese baseball players by prefecture – C2A. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:44, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. This isn't a Japanese category. Gonnym (talk) 19:19, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonnym, my bad, I tagged the wrong category! Fixed it. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Still oppose. This isn't C2A and it's consistent (and correct) with Category:Sportspeople from Japan by prefecture. Gonnym (talk) 06:12, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Many recent precedents have changed that and its now supposed to be "Foo sportspeople by region". Nevertheless, I've moved it to full Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Still oppose. This isn't C2A and it's consistent (and correct) with Category:Sportspeople from Japan by prefecture. Gonnym (talk) 06:12, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonnym, my bad, I tagged the wrong category! Fixed it. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:52, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. This isn't a Japanese category. Gonnym (talk) 19:19, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
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