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Germany must be updated
[edit]They legalized today. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68378807 Lene Johansen (talk) 15:44, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- I already updated the page but I can't update the maps as wikimedia won't let me. Homercat1234 (talk) 15:47, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- I went ahead and updated it since I don't think it requires any signature from the leader of Germany or any other body of the legislature to pass it. Pretty sure about that but if I'm wrong can just revert back.--Jamesy0627144 (talk) 21:38, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- I have reverted the map files for now, because the law is not yet in force (it will take effect on 1 April 2024). 1857a (talk) 01:50, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- I know that the law is not in effect. But, as a Cannabis watcher, I remember that whenever a US state legalizes Cannabis the map is updated as soon as the law is approved. Since, in this case, the law will go into effect on April 1 it is proper to update the map now. I checked some old talk pages and it appears that this has been the policy since at least 2018 as far as I can tell. Therefore, I disagree with the reversion and support restoring the changes. Homercat1234 (talk) 03:40, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Ohio and nearly every jurisdiction I've seen for a while has been updated on the map when the law passed rather than when the law came into effect. Not sure why it would be different for Germany (or Luxembourg and Ukraine, previously) I disagree with the reversion and support restoring changes to the two maps. Kawashika (talk) 05:33, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Can we just revert the map? I feel like there has been enough time. Homercat1234 (talk) 15:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- I have reverted the map files for now, because the law is not yet in force (it will take effect on 1 April 2024). 1857a (talk) 01:50, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- I went ahead and updated it since I don't think it requires any signature from the leader of Germany or any other body of the legislature to pass it. Pretty sure about that but if I'm wrong can just revert back.--Jamesy0627144 (talk) 21:38, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Cannabis is NOT legal in Germany
[edit]It is clearly illegal to own, grow or trade cannabis in Germany: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/kcang/__2.html
It is only legal to own 25g for personal consumption, 50g at home, and to grow up to 3 plants https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/kcang/__3.html
Notice that it is only legal to consume it for yourself. If someone owns 20g and plans to smoke 0,2g together with a friend, the possession of the whole 20g becomes illegal before cannabis is even shared. If you subsequently consume the cannabis together with a friend, you commit a crime, which is theoretical punishable by up to 3 years in prison: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/kcang/__34.html.
Plus, there is no way to legally buy cannabis. 2A02:908:E855:AA00:B92C:3E25:926D:93CC (talk) 10:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's definitely restrictive in some ways but the coloring is consistent with other countries in the table / map and almost all of the media reporting I have seen refers to Germany as having "legalized" cannabis.--Jamesy0627144 (talk) 22:52, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Cannabis is NOT legal in Turkmenistan either?
[edit]The map has Turkmenistan in blue. Cannot find any results corroborating, only results insisting illegal, as well as the Turkmenistan row of the table. Was that edit in error? 146.90.88.182 (talk) 20:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Correction to ACT legality status
[edit]As per the ACT government website,
"Cannabis is not legal in the ACT, it has been decriminalised. The ACT has removed penalties for adults who possess or use small amounts of cannabis so they can get support without fear of being put through the justice system."
This page's map depicts the ACT as having legal cannabis, when the ACT has explicitly denied this. It should therefore fall into the "Illegal, but decriminalized" category. Powwu (talk) 16:51, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Most reporting I have seen refers to cannabis being "legal" in ACT (see articles below), and that is consistent with how other countries such as Georgia and South Africa are colored in the table and on the map. I would stick with classifying it as "legal" because the word "decriminalized" as it is most commonly used refers to a policy where there is still some kind of penalty for possessing small amounts. Perhaps the website is just meaning to say that there is no legal regulated cannabis market in ACT, or they have some other reason for wanting to use that terminology.
- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-49820735
- https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/25/australias-capital-city-legalizes-marijuana.html
- https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/25/cannabis-set-to-be-legalised-in-australian-capital-territory-for-personal-use
- https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/world/australia/marijuana-cannabis-recreational-legal.html
- https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-cannabis/canberra-becomes-first-australian-city-to-legalize-marijuana-for-personal-use-idUSKBN1WA14X
- https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/asia/australia-cannabis-legal-intl-scli-hnk/index.html
- https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/news/2019/australian-capital-territory-legalises-personal-cannabis-growing-and-consumption_en
- https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-25/act-first-jurisdiction-to-legalise-personal-cannabis-use/11530104
- https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australia-canberra-capital-cannabis-recreational-use-legal-marijuana-a9120126.html
- --Jamesy0627144 (talk) 04:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Crimea on map
[edit]An editor removed the map saying there's something wrong with its depiction of Crimea. I don't see any borders or labels and don't see an issue. Please explain here what's the problem. ☆ Bri (talk) 01:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you’ve seen Crimea shown as part of Russia on a map, that’s not accurate. According to international law and the position of most countries, Crimea is part of Ukraine. In 2014, Russia illegally annexed Crimea, but the international community didn’t recognize this action.
- So, if someone is depicting Crimea as Russian, it might be a mistake or even an attempt to spread misinformation. Officially and according to international standards, Crimea remains Ukrainian territory, and it’s important to keep that in mind to avoid misrepresenting the facts. Salto Loco (talk) 20:32, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- I hear what you are saying but there is also an argument against it. Matter should be taken up at File:BlankMap-World.svg instead, which is the map that File:Map-of-world-medical-cannabis-laws.svg is derived from.-Jamesy0627144 (talk) 04:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)