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Q1: Why is the article titled Adam's Bridge instead of Rama Setu, Rama's Bridge, Shree Ramsetu, Ram Setu or something else?

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For the origins of different names, see the article.

English Wikipedia's policy and convention (see WP:Article titles and WP:Naming conventions (geographic names) ) is that the title of an article should be the modern name generally used in English-language reliable sources, such as (in this case) scholarly works on geography, history and religion.

Several discussions requesting the retitling of the article have been held since 2011, and the Wikipedia community's consensus has been that Adam's Bridge is the proper title per Wikipedia policy.

Q2: Why was my request or comment removed?

A2: Because of the frequency of meritless and disruptive requests, any further requests to move the page or to change the name will be removed without consideration, unless the request complies with all relevant Wikipedia guidelines, including WP:Requested moves, WP:Common name, WP:Article titles, and WP:Reliable sources.

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Move logs: Adam's Bridge

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RM, Adam's Bridge → Shree Ramsetu, No consensus, 22 January 2011, Talk:Adam's Bridge/Archive 3#Requested move
RM, Adam's Bridge → Ram Setu, No consensus, 14 April 2012, Talk:Adam's Bridge/Archive 3#Edit request on 7 April 2012
RM, Adam's Bridge → Rama's Bridge, Not moved, 4 May 2012, Talk:Adam's Bridge/Archive 3#Requested_move_2
RM, Adam's Bridge → Rama's Bridge, Not moved, 23 August 2017, Talk:Adam's Bridge/Archive 4#Requested move 17 August 2017
RM, Adam's Bridge → Ram Setu, Not moved, 5 August 2018, Talk:Adam's Bridge/Archive 5#Requested move 24 July 2018
RM, Adam's Bridge → Ram Setu, Not moved, 3 May 2021, Talk:Adam's_Bridge/Archive_7#Requested_move_26_April_2021, 1 year WP:MORATORIUM added
RM, Adam's Bridge → Ram Setu, Not moved, 12 May 2023, Talk:Adam's_Bridge/Archive_8#Requested_move_5_May_2023, 1 year WP:MORATORIUM added

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This question arises frequently on the talk page concerning Adam's Bridge.

Why is the article titled Adam's Bridge instead of Rama Setu, Rama's Bridge, Shree Ramsetu, Ram Setu or something else?

For the origins of different names, see the Adam's Bridge § Etymology.

English Wikipedia's policy on article titles and guideline on naming conventions require that the title of an article be the modern name generally used in English-language reliable sources, such as (in this case) scholarly works on geography, history, and religion. Several discussions requesting the retitling of the article have been held since 2011, and the Wikipedia community's consensus has been that Adam's Bridge is the proper title in accordance with Wikipedia policy and guidelines.

Why was my request or comment removed?

Because of the frequency of meritless and disruptive requests, any further requests to move the page or to change the name will be removed without consideration, unless the request complies with all relevant Wikipedia guidelines, including WP:Requested moves, WP:Common name, WP:Article titles, and WP:Reliable sources.

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Editwar at Ram Setu (film)

Your input is welcome at Talk:Ram_Setu_(film)#New_editwar. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reinstate moritorium

I propose reinstating the moratorium on rename requests for another year; they still come in. 331dot (talk) 07:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

331dot, is this an ongoing problem? Cullen328 (talk) 07:15, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Virtually all the requests are made by drive-by editors who don't cite policy and don't stay here to engage with us. It's mostly editors from India who believe that this should be known by the local name, mostly as an anti-colonialism measure, or religious reason- but have never been able to show that it is the most commonly used name in English language sources. Even in India more broadly "Adam's Bridge" is sometimes used. 331dot (talk) 07:22, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but these would still come, and they would be treated about the same with a moratorium, wouldn't they? Afaict, drive-by:s are mostly reverted for not making any WP-arguments, like [1]. Reverting per "read the FAQ" (and I have no objection to that) or "there's a moratorium" takes the same amount of work. But my knee-jerk reaction is that at this point in time, if someone wants to do an actual WP:RM#CM, they should be able to, thems the rules. And if that happens, we might slap another moratorium on this issue afterwards, thems also the rules. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:01, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not opposed to treating it this way. 331dot (talk) 14:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To put it another way, I think the FAQ

"Because of the frequency of meritless and disruptive requests, any further requests to move the page or to change the name will be removed without consideration, unless the request complies with all relevant Wikipedia guidelines, including WP:Requested moves, WP:Common name, WP:Article titles, and WP:Reliable sources."

justifies the routine reverts. A moratorium at this point would IMO only stop an actual WP:RM#CM. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:04, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support as the Talk Page's history is littered with removed requests (almost all of which have no substance beyond the request itself, ie no sources/evidence). As in a previous moratorium discussion, I might suggest perhaps a longer moratorium. Paris1127 (talk) 14:50, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose current proposal as irrelevant, because we don't have a moratorium on rename requests (which are quickly removed per the FAQ above), we have a moratorium on formal WP:RM discussions. I support an extension of the current moratorium on RM discussions (by 2 years or more), but that isn't what's being proposed here. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:52, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pardon my poorly worded statement, that is what I am proposing. 331dot (talk) 17:12, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, from where do we have a moratorium on formal WP:RM discussions? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:55, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support an extension of the current moratorium on RM discussions (by 2 years or more) - assuming that I have understood this - Arjayay (talk) 17:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]