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separating brown field and contaminated land
[edit]i think these articles should be separated as they are separate (though related) things. Contaminated land is land effected by contamination this could be green-field sites which have been subject to fly tipping or accidental spills
Brownfield land is a planning term relating to sites which have had a previous use. Not all Brownfield sites are contaminated.--Joylessdave (talk) 14:54, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
'Such land has been contaminated with hazardous waste or pollution or is feared to be so' I am changing this to 'may'. The US reference gives the contamination as a fact but even the UK reference says 'Brownfields are sites that: have been affected by the former uses of the site and surrounding land • are derelict and underused • may have real or perceived contamination problems • are mainly in developed urban areas •and require intervention to bring them back to beneficial use’¹' Novalia (talk) 11:44, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Proposed changes
[edit]Hello, I am currently enrolled in an environmental policy course and as a class project we are to create or expand Wikipedia articles. My topic is brownfield regulation and development and feel that this current article, brownfield land, is a great starting point. I would like to propose expanding the regulation and development sections to include more information on how this might occur and to also add a public policy section. I am up for suggestions on anything else. My current resources are of course the EPA website and a journal article by Anna Alberini et.al. titled "The role of liability, regulation and economic incentives in brownfield remediation and redevelopment: evidence from surveys of developers." Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Dnpatton (talk) 15:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- I don't have access to that journal article, but the EPA website is a good source; I see it contains the full text of the laws. That's not going to be very easy to integrate into the article, though -- it's a primary source -- but it will be very useful. There's a "laws and statutes" page at the EPA that could be used to create a list of the relevant laws. It might also be possible to search news archives, using the names of the statutes, and find relevant stories about the passage of the bills -- the "Small Business Liability Relief and Brownfields Revitalization Act" appears to be the main one. (Although it does have its own article, so we shouldn't have too much about the bill itself here, just summary information.) Here is one reference that talks about legal consequences. Google Books also shows previews of Brownfields by Todd S. Davis, which might be helpful. State government websites might have information about state brownfield statutes -- see this NY query for example -- and some state-by-state information about what the states currently provides would be great information for this article. Mike Christie (talk – library) 01:10, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I am a student in Professor Ken Richards class, Dnpatton and me are in the same group. I plan to add two parts in this article. The first one is Economics of Brownfield land, it may include some practical trading examples,applying the economic theories,the area wide economic transformation using integrated approaches and augmentative practices.(EPA resources might be available) The second one is Society and Culture, the main ideas are about different countries with their specific interests in brownfield innovation, natural, historical context, and political reality, photography might be available. For example, in England, New homes on Brownfield land. Also, any feedback would be appreciated. --Silverbullet527 18:17, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
A bibliography of sources
[edit]- Environmental Restoration Program
- Brownfield Cleanup Program
- Brownfield Opportunity Areas Program
Economics of Brownfield land
[edit]- NYS Brownfield opportunity Areas (BOA)
- NYS Paper Mill Island Park
- NJ Environmental Infrastructure Trust Smart Growth Financing Program
Society and Culture
[edit]- Germany
- BMBF funding program
- England
- Japan
- Japanese Knotweed Treatment
- Inert Soil Importation
- Hospital Building Demolition
- Wasteland Tree Clearance
- Brownfield Site Remediation
- Japanese Knotweed Removal
--Silverbullet527 05:18, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
Suggestions
[edit]Hi Brownfield group! It looks like the page you're starting with is a pretty good framework and I think you have some good suggestions. If you are looking for more sources, Prof. Rubin's economic development class did a big project on Pittsburgh's revitalization and a component was their brownfield redevelopment success (some of those folks are in our econ class now). Also you could talk about the CERCLA liability/due diligence process and how that plays out when trying to redevelop land. Cool topic! Gwaleko (talk) 01:51, 19 April 2011 (UTC)gwaleko
Hello, Wikipedians! Your article seems to be coming along well! Regarding content, that which is currently included in the page is actually really nice. More discussion of economic implications could definitely add depth to the material. There are a ton of internal links on your page, some of which don't seem terribly necessary (gas stations, financial, highways, etc). But there also seem to be lots of GOOD internal links and also lots of references, which is great! One thing that could be added is additional graphics. In the Location section "Old maps assist in identifying areas to be tested", it would be helpful if you included an actualy Brownfield map that would allow readers to get the visual idea more clearly. Similarly, adding images to the Innovation section could aid in the visual ideas, too! I really like the innovation section and think it's an important part of this topic. Your page looks like it's coming along, great job, all of you! BloomingtonWriter (talk) 08:37, 19 April 2011 (UTC)BloomingtonWriter
Parks and Open Space
[edit]Hello Brownfield Wikipedians! I have a few additions to the article that I hope will be improvements. The current article has a focus on commercial redevelopment of brownfield land, but there are a number of parks and open spaces that are also the result of redevelopment. I have found 6 ASLA award winning projects that are examples of redevelopment that are not businesses or housing. One of these parks is in Korea, two are in China, and three are in the United States. This will also help to give the article a more global perspective. In addition, I propose changing the headings throughout the article. The current United States heading makes it difficult for small edits from international projects. After more than 5 years, I would also suggest that the content lacking citations in the "Post Re-Development" and "Barriers to Re-Development" sections be removed along with the maintenance templates. These are my reasons for making my upcoming changes and additions. Jesslerner (talk) 04:14, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
Globalize
[edit]The article does NOT represent a worldwide view of the subject. The U.S. part is well written (but needs more sources). There is something about the UK (in the LEAD and in the Brownfield_land#Regulation section, which is a sub-section of Brownfield_land#United_States), and a few words about Australia, but, in my opinion, this is not enough. Please, try to improve it by adding more general information and/or by moving some sub-sections, if possible. I also think it would be great if we could have laws and info from Europe and developing countries such as China, India, Brazil, Mexico and etcetera. Thanks. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:30, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Please take the initiative to improve the article with the information you believe is missing. If the article does not address "brownfield"(a word in english) from a global perspective, it is because people from around the globe(you) have not taken the initiative to add information about their country of residence. Drn8 (talk) 18:17, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
"Brown Field"
[edit]The usage and primary topic of Brown Field is under discussion, see talk:Brown Field (Valparaiso University) -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 07:00, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
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Proposed merge with Brownfield status
[edit]Two articles on slightly different aspects of same topic. Would be stronger together. No clear advantage for keeping them separate at this time. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 12:11, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- Agree 100%, DA Sonnenfeld and will start the process.--Wuerzele (talk) 13:12, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
Hello,
I am currently enrolled in a university class on environmental justice: "race, class, equity and the environment," and as part of an assignment I am to critique an article of my choice. While this article had a great amount of important information that educated me a lot on the topic, with a bunch of reliable sources and scholarly journals, there are a couple of pointers I would like to add:
1) In the beginning of the article, there is mention of "mothballed brownfields," sites that are not cleaned up or put to productive use. This term along with general information about the land should definitely have its own separate section.
2) There is very little mention of other places in the world where these sites pop up; there is a small section dedicated to regulations in the United Kingdom, as well as the United Kingdoms variation of the term "Brownfield land" but nothing on the rest of Europe or Asia or anywhere else in the world. I believe you could improve the strength and validity of your article by comparing and contrasting a couple of different countries from different parts of the world.
3) Where is the section on environmental risks of these fields contaminated with hazardous waste? This article has so much potential with its credible sources and neutral standpoints, however, there are certain topics that are extremely underrepresented, (some that haven't even been mentioned at all) and perhaps including what kind of damage these sites have on soil, water, the atmosphere and just the environment as a whole, would make this a much stronger piece of writing.
4) Lastly but most importantly, a factor of great significance that is missing in this article is detailed information on where these sites are located both within the United States as well as internationally; what types of cities with what types of demographics? Where are the "mothballed brownfields" and are they located in poorer areas that aren't prioritized for redevelopment? Also, who funds the redevelopment and who assesses the contaminations? (You mention state and federal programs, but no information on which ones). I can only assume that environmental racism would be a huge factor in determining the sites that are left unused, and I believe it would make for a great, informative section in this article.
Other than these pointers, I would like to mention that I knew practically nothing about the topic until I stumbled upon this article, and now I have a desire to learn more about them because of this reading this! Best regards.Ilonamantachian (talk) 22:34, 10 February 2017 (UTC) Ilona
Defence Infrastructure Organisation
[edit]I removed the reference to the Defence Infrastructure Organisation because its primary purpose is building, maintaining and servicing the infrastructure needed to support the military.[1] While it does have some role in the development of brownfield land, it is only in as much as it relates to land for military purposes.
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[edit]The first version which contained a non-numeric date in a citation was https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brownfield_land&direction=next&oldid=328675021 , which introduced "July 10, 2006" → MDY format. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 15:12, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]Who or what is Turenscape? And why do they get all this free advertising in this article? --217.239.14.79 (talk) 22:08, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for bringing this to attention. Removed. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 22:28, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
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