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Former good article nomineeJapanese invasions of Korea (1592–1598) was a Warfare good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Disambig in title

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Question—why is the date disambiguation needed in the title? Are there other Japanese invasions of Korea? Is it because of Korea's annexation in the 20th century? If so, I think the annexation isn't really considered a military invasion. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 06:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just realized; is it just trying to make clear that the article covers both invasions? 14.49.153.193 (talk) 02:21, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weird sentence

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what is this?

（How could you possibly die 10000? This is a fabrication used by future generations to commemorate this battle. According to contemporary Korean records, the Korean army harvested 130 Japanese heads, and the Koreans estimated that they killed five to six Japanese soldiers。） 2A02:6B6F:FBF0:DD00:698F:1C2C:EB17:596F (talk) 07:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 December 2024

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Japanese invasions of Korea (1592–1598) → Imjin War – Far more common name for the conflict according to Google Ngram https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Imjin+War%2C+Japanese+Invasion+of+Korea&year_start=1800&year_end=2022 also much more natural sounding than the current title which has to be disambiguated with a date. Gazingo (talk) 22:42, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Imjin War is more common than this descriptive but unnatural formulation. JArthur1984 (talk) 00:11, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support as per WP:COMMONNAME. Imjin War does seem to be used more often. A good number of sources do however refer to it by "Japanese invasions of Korea", so it isn't too uncommon. OutsideTheGates (talk) 01:23, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support per above; note that the ngram should probably be case insensitive and could include plural, but that doesn't change much [1]. seefooddiet (talk) 09:18, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The naming here is a little perculiar. The Imjin War(or 'wars') was a series of two separate but linked invasions (Imjin War / Chongyu War) which are collectively referred to as the "1592–1598 Japanese invasions of Korea" or just as "Imjin War".
Now, considering that the article has been tagged with {{very long}}, would it be possible to separate the article into Imjin War and Chongyu War (or Jeongyu War, if the RR happens to be the commonname)? Or perhaps create those two articles as separate and leave this one to serve as a encompassing overview for both wars, like French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars? -- 00101984hjw (talk) 03:31, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still need to think but I think having one article for both invasions makes more sense. The invasions were too strongly interrelated to make splitting like that helpful. Very long tag could be addressed by tightening up the writing. seefooddiet (talk) 05:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not even sure if Chongyu War is a real term or something invented by the article. Neither spelling produces any results on google Ngram. I can't find a single book that describes just one invasion without describing the other. Gazingo (talk) 23:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Real term ("정유재란"), attestation on the Encyclopedia of Korean Culture. Romanized using McCune–Reischauer. seefooddiet (talk) 23:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think for now, we should move this article to "Imjin War". From there, someone could propose splits or trimmings to address the length of the article.
It may be the case that a separate article for Chongyu War may be appropriate, per 00101984hjw's comment. Also worth noting that the kowiki has a separate article for Chongyu War: ko:정유재란. seefooddiet (talk) 23:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't speak Korean so could you tell me more about the Korean wiki's state? How are the articles structured with regards to the first invasion, second invasion, and the overall conflict? Gazingo (talk) 02:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Imjin War is main article and covers both invasions. Lead para affirms our understanding here, that "Imjin War" can refer to either the overall war (both invasions) or just the first one. The Imjin War article has a section on the Chongyu War that's brief and WP:SUMMARY style. The Chongyu War article goes into more depth.
I think we could follow the same pattern. seefooddiet (talk) 03:00, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that that would be for the best, though we are getting out the realm of the move discussion. Gazingo (talk) 05:18, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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