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This is a page for requesting tasks to be done by bots per the bot policy. This is an appropriate place to put ideas for uncontroversial bot tasks, to get early feedback on ideas for bot tasks (controversial or not), and to seek bot operators for bot tasks. Consensus-building discussions requiring large community input (such as request for comments) should normally be held at WP:VPPROP or other relevant pages (such as a WikiProject's talk page).

You can check the "Commonly Requested Bots" box above to see if a suitable bot already exists for the task you have in mind. If you have a question about a particular bot, contact the bot operator directly via their talk page or the bot's talk page. If a bot is acting improperly, follow the guidance outlined in WP:BOTISSUE. For broader issues and general discussion about bots, see the bot noticeboard.

Before making a request, please see the list of frequently denied bots, either because they are too complicated to program, or do not have consensus from the Wikipedia community. If you are requesting that a template (such as a WikiProject banner) is added to all pages in a particular category, please be careful to check the category tree for any unwanted subcategories. It is best to give a complete list of categories that should be worked through individually, rather than one category to be analyzed recursively (see example difference).

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# Bot request Status 💬 👥 🙋 Last editor 🕒 (UTC) 🤖 Last botop editor 🕒 (UTC)
1 QIDs in Infobox person/Wikidata BRFA filed 11 4 Tom.Reding 2024-10-06 14:23 Tom.Reding 2024-10-06 14:23
2 "Was" in TV articles 7 5 Bunnypranav 2024-11-26 13:08 Bunnypranav 2024-11-26 13:08
3 Films by director  done 9 4 Usernamekiran 2024-10-03 13:30 Usernamekiran 2024-10-03 13:30
4 altering certain tags on protected pages? 10 5 Primefac 2024-10-20 14:47 Primefac 2024-10-20 14:47
5 Request for Bot to Remove ARWU_NU Parameter from Articles Using Infobox US University Ranking Template 4 2 Primefac 2024-10-13 12:50 Primefac 2024-10-13 12:50
6 Removal of two external link templates per TfD result 6 4 Primefac 2024-10-14 13:48 Primefac 2024-10-14 13:48
7 Replace merged WikiProject template with parent project + parameter  Done 7 3 Primefac 2024-10-21 10:04 Primefac 2024-10-21 10:04
8 Bot Request to Add Vezina Trophy Winners Navbox to Relevant Player Pages 3 3 Primefac 2024-10-19 12:23 Primefac 2024-10-19 12:23
9 Replace standalone BLP templates  Done 7 3 MSGJ 2024-10-30 19:37 Tom.Reding 2024-10-29 16:04
10 Assess set index and WikiProject Lists based on category as lists 19 5 Mrfoogles 2024-11-06 16:17 Tom.Reding 2024-11-02 15:53
11 Request for WP:SCRIPTREQ 1 1 StefanSurrealsSummon 2024-11-08 18:27
12 LLM summary for laypersons to talk pages of overly technical articles? 10 7 Legoktm 2024-11-12 17:50 Legoktm 2024-11-12 17:50
13 Redirects with curly apostrophes 6 5 Pppery 2024-11-11 17:30 Primefac 2024-11-11 16:52
14 Bot for replacing/archiving 13,000 dead citations for New Zealand charts 3 2 Muhandes 2024-11-14 22:49 Muhandes 2024-11-14 22:49
15 Basketball biography infobox request 7 2 Dissident93 2024-11-18 21:04 Primefac 2024-11-17 20:44
16 Meanings of minor-planet names 1 1 Absolutiva 2024-11-18 16:20
17 Reference examination bot 4 3 Wiki king 100000 2024-11-25 17:00 Usernamekiran 2024-11-20 13:02
18 Replacing FastilyBot BRFA filed 23 8 Primefac 2024-11-23 14:08 Primefac 2024-11-23 14:08
19 Deletion of navboxes at Category:Basketball Olympic squad navigational boxes by competition  Working 4 4 Geardona 2024-11-20 23:48 Qwerfjkl 2024-11-20 17:32
20 Tagging Category:Cinema of Belgium BRFA filed 17 4 Bunnypranav 2024-11-26 12:59 Bunnypranav 2024-11-26 12:59
21 Bulk remove "link will display the full calendar" from articles about calendar years 3 3 Qwerfjkl 2024-11-30 11:08 Qwerfjkl 2024-11-30 11:08
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QIDs in Infobox person/Wikidata

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For each entry in Category:Infobox person Wikidata using qid, please:

  1. Check that the |qid= value matches the QID of the article's matched Wikidata item
  2. if so, delete the entire |qid= line, as in this edit
  3. Add a note of any that do not match to a log page (the talk page of the category should be fine) for manual checking and resolution.

It's possible that this might be required to be re-run on a regular basis, and could be added to a scheduled cleanup task. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pigsonthewing: Hi. I already have a code which can perform the first two steps (for the task described in the thread above "Regularly removing coords missing if coordinates are present"). Can you give me an example wording) of the line that you are expecting for the third step? —usernamekiran (talk) 20:27, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. A simple list of links to the articles, under the heading "QID in template does not match Wikidata" would be fine. OTOH, if you want to make a separate edit for each occurrence, then a link to the article followed by "QID in template does not match Wikidata". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Andy actually, only the removal of QID line would fall under WP:COSMETICBOT. We can create a list of mismatches like you suggested on the category talkpage, or some new/dedicated WP page. The ones that have correct QID can be removed with AWB if some other changes are made as well. So we will have to create two separate lists (on the same page, or separate). Let me know what you think. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:02, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is not "cosmetic": it prevents the link breaking if the article is subsequently found to be more correctly associated with another item. As such, it satisfies the "administration of the encyclopedia" criterion. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:13, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
usernamekiran: Making a corrective edit that removes a maintenance category is not a cosmetic edit. There is at least one approved bot that removes unsupported infobox template parameters (which do not render anything in the infobox) that emit a maintenance category. – Jonesey95 (talk) 10:31, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Was" in TV articles

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I'm still finding a lot of TV show articles following the format "Name of show was" even though MOS:TV has dictated "Name of show is" for ages. Could a bot be made that can find cases where "was" is still being used? Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 19:13, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TenPoundHammer: in theory, yes. A lot of variations of the sentence would have to be considered, but it is possible. A few rare false positives may occur if the show's name was changed. This would make it borderline WP:CONTEXTBOT though. But if we make the bot good enough, then we may be able to run it. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:07, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have context concerns as well. This might be better for a database report, if only to see the scale/scope of the issue. Primefac (talk) 13:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Primefac: can we do that then? Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 18:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, I am not personally going to do it, but "we" as a whole/community can certainly do that. Primefac (talk) 19:34, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TenPoundHammer try at WP:SQLREQ if you want some SQL code for the DB report. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:08, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like a job for WP:AWB, where each change can be verified by a human before it is made. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:30, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Films by director

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There was formerly a consensus that Category:Films by director had to be all-inclusive, such that it had to directly contain every "Films by [Specific Director]" category even if it was already otherwise in subcategories by director nationality or film genre. Due to the sheer daunting size of the category, however, that's since been deprecated, but there's been only minimal effort expended on actually cleaning it up — somebody else already emptied out A and B (and, partially but not completely, C), while I voluntarily went through the Canadian categories (as my own primary area of expertise) and a few other countries (Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Finland, Iceland, Syria) with a small and manageable number of director categories to sweep through as an AWB batch, but I'd be at it for days and days if I tried to tackle countries like France, Italy, Japan, India, Britain, Germany or the United States, with hundreds or thousands of director categories, myself.

So I wanted to ask if there's a bot that could be programmed to go through the Category:Films by director nationality subcategory (not the main category, as there may be a few directors in there whose categories aren't otherwise in a nationality subcat) to remove Category:Films by director from the categories that are already under the nationality category. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 17:24, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bearcat: I did not understand your request exactly. But I had run a similar task (I think) for KiranBOT task 7. Would you kindly share 3-4 diffs? —usernamekiran (talk) 19:04, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Diffs of what? I'm asking for bot help in removing extraneous duplicate categorization, what's there to show diffs of? Bearcat (talk) 00:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bearcat: Hi. I meant something like this, and that. But Tom has handled all the categories now. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:30, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This can easily be done with WP:Cat-a-lot, with only up to ~120 followup edits, depending on how careful you want to be, since the overlap is ~98%.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  19:29, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to Cat-a-lot I already have the gadget installed, yet absolutely none of the followup steps listed on that page are showing me any evidence whatsoever that I have it installed — the "post-it window" that I'm supposed to see if I have it installed isn't there. That said, I see that it's already been done, because the only stuff left in the parent category anymore is the stuff that's only in the parent category and would thus have to have been manually corrected anyway, so thanks to whoever looked after that — but I still could never have done it by myself, because Catalot isn't working for me the way it's supposedly meant to. Bearcat (talk) 00:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're not missing much... It took longer than expected to use & wasn't reliable, only processing 140~150 cats at a time, randomly out of my selection of 190~200 each time. Carefully deselecting cats that should stay in Category:Films by director, sometimes up to a dozen times, became too tedious so I just bulk moved 200 150 at a time and put back what needed to be put back afterwards. At any rate...  done!   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  00:32, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, {{Category works by person}} will need tweaking to remove Films directed by Peter Ramsey.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  00:37, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The template does not need tweaking. The doc explains that if you want a nationality sub-category, then just use the parameter. Gonnym (talk) 11:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

altering certain tags on protected pages?

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I recently read a comment from someone regarding them seeing the {{expand}} tag in an article, and wanting to go ahead and work on the section, only to discover that it was protected and they could not do so. Their feeling, which is understandable, is that it was discouraging to reply to a request for help, only to find that their help was not welcome. There is of course usually a lock icon on the page but not everyone knows to look for that or what it means.

I note that User:MusikBot II removes templates from pages where protection has just expired, and is an adminbot and can therefore also edit protected pages. I'm curious if it seems feasible/wise to have it (or some other bot) make some sort of modification to the expand template, and perhaps other similar templates, to reflect the current protection level and suggest using the talk page to propose edits? And of course it would undo those edits upon the expiration of protection. (as always with the caveat that I know nothing about bot coding) Pinging @MusikAnimal: as bot maintainer, but any and all feedback is of course welcome. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:25, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Just Step Sideways: Another way would be to have the {{expand}} tag automatically detect the protection level (which I know is possible, but I wouldn't know how to implement it) and alter its message. Rusty 🐈 22:37, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, altering the template would be better; templates like {{rcat shell}} already have this functionality using magic words. I'll paste the relevant code below if someone wants to sandbox something. Obviously it will be different to make it inline but the general gist of using the #switch will be the same. For example, a #switch in {{Expand section}} could change the text from "You can help by adding to it" to "You can make an edit request to improve it". Primefac (talk) 10:30, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
{{if IP}}, {{if autoconfirmed}}, and {{if extended confirmed}} should also be useful here. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:36, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
PROTECTIONLEVEL code
{{#switch: {{PROTECTIONLEVEL:edit}}
   |sysop={{pp-protected|small=yes}}{{R fully-protected|embed=yes}}
   |templateeditor={{pp-protected|small=yes}}{{R template protected|embed=yes}}
   |extendedconfirmed={{pp-protected|small=yes}}{{R extended-protected|embed=yes}}
   |autoconfirmed={{pp-protected|small=yes}}{{R semi-protected|embed=yes}}
   | <!--Not protected, or only semi-move-protected-->
}}
I agree automating this without the bot is preferable. The bot can and does add protection templates to pages like this, but I believe it didn't here because this template was protected long before the bot was introduced. MusikAnimal talk 15:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Bot to Remove ARWU_NU Parameter from Articles Using Infobox US University Ranking Template

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Not an issue for Bot requests. Referred elsewhere
 – More appropriate for WP:AWB/TASKS due to small size.

Hello! I would like to request a bot to assist with removing the `ARWU_NU` parameter from articles using the **Infobox US university ranking** template. This parameter is now deprecated and is causing undefined reference errors across many articles, particularly for universities in North America.

The bot should:

1. Search for instances of the `ARWU_NU` parameter within articles that use the **Infobox US university ranking** template.

2. Remove the line where `ARWU_NU` appears, which is typically formatted like this with a number following:

| ARWU_NU = [ranking number]

or

| ARWU_NU = 1

This cleanup is needed across many pages, and automating the process would greatly reduce the time required to fix this issue manually.

Thank you for your help, and please let me know if further clarification is needed! Mikecurry1 (talk) 20:51, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Was there consensus for this removal? If so we can set up a tracking category and I can probably deal with this. I will also note mikeblas seems to have fixed the reference errors. Primefac (talk) 21:01, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there was a consensus between two editors on this issue, and it was raised independently by both as a concern with the template over several years. There were no opposing votes. The core issue is that the ARWU_NU parameter reflects a refractory ranking, which is not considered a legitimate or widely accepted metric. Of the big three global rankings—THE, QS, and ARWU—only ARWU uses a refractory ranking, which is less reliable for North American universities. If all three rankings included a refractory ranking, it could make more sense to include it. However, with only ARWU listing a refractory ranking, such rankings are generally discouraged under Wikipedia policy.
This issue has persisted for several years and was discussed twice during that time, both times with a consensus to remove the parameter. Given the lack of objections and the support of both editors, we both believe removing it is the right approach, especially to avoid listing only one refractory ranking while excluding the others.
Thank you again for your assistance with this matter! Mikecurry1 (talk) 21:21, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tracking cat only shows about 200 pages; too small for a bot run, so I've cross-posted at AWB to get assistance. Primefac (talk) 12:50, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Curlie and Template:FootballDatabase.eu should both be removed from articles per their TfDs. Since they both have over 5k transclusions, the removal is more suited to a bot. Any help is appreciated. Gonnym (talk) 09:10, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will file a BRFA soon. – DreamRimmer (talk) 09:36, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Holding cell#Tools lists several bots that are already approved for implementing TFD results. Anomie 11:17, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since Template:Curlie was almost a month listed with no progress, I took it as a sign that the bot operator's had other things they were doing. Gonnym (talk) 11:22, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If any approved bot wants to handle this, that's fine with me. If they don't have the time, I am happy to help. Let's wait a few more hours. – DreamRimmer (talk) 11:47, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can probably handle it, TFDH has been on my rotation of things to get to but I had an even larger backlog of perm pages to deal with this weekend so I couldn't manage it then. Primefac (talk) 13:48, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replace merged WikiProject template with parent project + parameter

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WikiProject Reference works has been merged as a task force of WikiProject books. The referencework= parameter has been added to the Template:WikiProject Books banner template to indicate if it applies to the task force, so now all usages of the former Template:WikiProject Reference works need to be replaced with the books template with the task force parameter. When something similar was done with a previous project, it was done by bot (though I forgot what bot), could this be done again? Or is there another efficient way to do this? Also, there will be some duplicates, since some are tagged with both. The books project doesn't use importance and many articles tagged with ref works don't have it so the importance parameter on the old banner should be discarded not transferred. Thanks! PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:58, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can help with this. – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:09, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Same; my bot is set up to handle these, and I thought it was TheSandBot that actually had a specific task for this but maybe it was actually Kiranbot... Looks like ~1500 pages where it will need to be folded into the Books banner, after which it can just be converted into a wrapper and autosubst by AnomieBOT. Primefac (talk) 16:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the info. Please feel free to handle this. As there wasn't a response in a reasonable time, I thought I should step in to help. – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:29, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Primefac Your bot did the job perfectly, thank you! Sorry for the annoyance, but could you do the same with another merged-into-task force project? WP:TERROR was mostly inactive, and the very few active editors reached a consensus to merge, see this discussion. {{WikiProject Terrorism}} should be folded into the
{{WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography}} banner (I added the task force and importance parameters to the crime banner). WP:TERROR has importance parameters, but the attention= and infobox= parameters were never maintained and most of the articles tagged with them have had their issues addressed so those can probably be discarded as the crime banner doesn't have them. I promise this is the last one hahaha. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:46, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll put it on my list. Primefac (talk) 20:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Primefac (talk) 10:04, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bot Request to Add Vezina Trophy Winners Navbox to Relevant Player Pages

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I would like to request a bot to automatically add the {{Vezina Trophy Winners}} template to all player pages that are currently listed in the Category:Vezina Trophy winners.


The template is already created and can be found at: Template:Vezina Trophy Winners.


Details:


1. The bot should check all pages within Category:Vezina Trophy winners.

2. For each page, if the {{Vezina Trophy Winners}} template is not already present, the bot should add it to the bottom of the page.

3. The template should be placed in the Navboxes section (before any categories or external links) on each player’s page.


Rationale:

This will ensure consistency and streamline the process of displaying the relevant information across all Vezina Trophy winners’ pages without having to manually add the template to each page. This will also make it easier to update the navbox in the future without needing to edit each individual page.


Please let me know if more information or clarification is needed. Thank you! 108.51.96.36 (talk) 23:46, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replace standalone BLP templates

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The templates {{BLP}}, {{BLP others}} and {{Active politician}} should not be called directly, but are triggered via the banner shell template in the following ways:

This is a request for the standalone templates to be replaced by the parameter in {{WikiProject banner shell}}. Example: [1]. If the parameter is already present, then the template can simply be removed. Pages can be tracked in Category:Talk pages using standalone BLP templates (0). Thank you — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can help with this. – DreamRimmer (talk) 15:11, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I already have some of the code to do this safely. Less than 1k pages so far so it shouldn't cause much fuss. Anyone doing this needs to be mindful of the activepol > yes > other > no priority.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  20:25, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tom.Reding, please feel free to take on this task if you already have the code available. – DreamRimmer (talk) 09:29, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Remaining 83 pages need manual attention: BLP/blp, BLP/blpo, BLPO/blp conflicts/mismatches, archives, stray text in one of the templates, etc. Will check periodically for a few days to see if any more pages filter in.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  16:04, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thank you. I'll look through the 0 ... — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:47, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tom.Reding  Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:37, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Assess set index and WikiProject Lists based on category as lists

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I was trying to assess some of the articles in WikiProject Chemicals, because I noticed there were only 400 chemicals articles that weren't assessed, and I noticed that most of the unassessed ones are just set index articles (there are a lot of these for ambiguous chemical names) for which no one had set the assessment to lists.

It seems to me like this wouldn't be that complicated to do with a bot: detecting templates in articles might be somewhat difficult due to the need for parsing due to the existence of nowiki brackets, but it could also be done by just assessing every page in the categories, Category:All set index articles and Category:WikiProject Lists articles as List-class. The "All set index articles" also includes a bunch of surname articles, but the templates listed all say in strong language that they are only to be used on set index articles, so I think it's fine.

Alternatively, all the various sub-categories of Category:Set index articles could also be included but that would probably be laborious.

Anyway, if this got done, it would eliminate most of the WikiProject Chemicals unassessed articles, and likely a significant number in other projects as well. There's ~3,000 unassessed list articles and at the least a few hundred unassessed set index articles, but probably more. Mrfoogles (talk) 17:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AWB would probably be better for this given the relatively low number of pages; if you don't have access or don't want to deal with it yourself, feel free to ask at WP:AWB/TASKS. Primefac (talk) 18:19, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't think 3,000 was low; I'll ask there. Doesn't that require someone to click through 3,000 times in order to update all the articles, though? I feel like it somewhat defeats the purpose of having a bot do it. I'm not sure how many set index articles are properly assessed but there are ~100,000 of them total, so if even 1 in 1000 are unassessed that leave 1,000 articles, and more otherwise. Mrfoogles (talk) 18:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You said there were only 400 that weren't assessed, where did 3000 come from? Primefac (talk) 18:37, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
sigh ignore me. I somehow managed to only parse about half of your paragraph. Primefac (talk) 18:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, letting this request stand then. Mrfoogles (talk) 19:29, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We can automatically assess SIAs as List-class if that works for every project. I did suggest this at Module talk:WikiProject banner once but didn't get much response. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:46, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's probably easier than making 3k edits to talk pages. Primefac (talk) 09:58, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support this also. Wikipedia:Set index articles says in the first sentence A set index article (SIA) is a list article, so this is also supported by the guideline itself. Gonnym (talk) 10:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So we have two ways of doing this: force all SIAs to have List-class (ignore any other value in |class=) or just default to List-class if |class= is blank/invalid — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say ignore |class= values for SIAs per Primefac & Gonnym. My guess is that any non-list |class= values are either mistakes or out of date.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  21:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some set index articles are classed as disambiguations, I think, so allowing other values would then require a large cleanup effort to fix those. I would say it's better not to. Mrfoogles (talk) 23:48, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is that classification intentional or accidental/stale? I have not dealt much with dabs/SIAs.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  15:53, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Me neither but the pages I've read spell out pretty clearly that set index articles are supposed to be classed as lists: Wikipedia:Content_assessment explicitly says set index articles are supposed to be List-class. So I think the Disambig. class is incorrect (accidentally incorrect, probably), yeah. Mrfoogles (talk) 03:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Linking Module_talk:WikiProject_banner/Archive_14#More page types for posterity. Looks like one person opposed it, but not very committedly, so it's probably fine. Wouldn't we want to change Module:Banner shell, though, or does the shell use the Wikiproject banner module? Mrfoogles (talk) 23:53, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like the process of these edit requests is to get a consensus for the change to be done among the people who have found the discussion, and then wait for someone with permissions who is interested to make the change. Discussion appears to have slowed and the general opinion is unclear, so I'm going to post a poll. Pinging all the people in the discussion thus far: @Primefac @MSGJ @Tom.Reding Mrfoogles (talk) 05:38, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom Mrfoogles (talk) 05:38, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
From my point of view, there is consensus for this, but I need to find the time to write the code and test it — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, thanks. I wasn't trying to pressure anyone to respond quicker; I just wasn't sure what to do, so I figured I'd just put a poll to make consensus/no consensus clear and then let it be to see if anyone was interested in taking the request. It'll be interesting to see how many unassessed chemicals articles are left after the set indexes -- I wonder if it might be the first project to have all the articles rated. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:17, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request for WP:SCRIPTREQ

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Would like to attain WP:SCRIPTREQ bot's buildup code. StefanSurrealsSummon (talk) 18:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LLM summary for laypersons to talk pages of overly technical articles?

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Today I was baffled by an article in Category:Wikipedia articles that are too technical which I was easily able to figure out after pasting the pertinent paragraphs into ChatGPT and asking it to explain it to me in layman's terms. So, that got me thinking, and looking through the category by popularity there are some pretty important articles getting a lot of views per day in there. So I thought, what about a bot which uses an LLM to create a layperson's summary of the article or tagged section, and posts it to the talk page for human editors to consider adding?

I think I can write it, I just want others' opinions and to find out if someone is trying or has already tried something like this yet. Mesopub (talk) 09:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Considering past discussions of LLMs, and WP:LLMTALK, I doubt the community would go for this. If you really want to try, WP:Village pump (proposals) or WP:Village pump (idea lab) would be better places to seek consensus for the idea. Anomie 14:17, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think WP:LLMTALK necessarily applies here: that's about using chatbots to participate in discussions, which is utterly pointless and disruptive. The idea here seems to be using an LLM on a talkpage for a totally different purpose it's much more suited to. That said, I also doubt people will get on board with this.
Mesopub, having a quick look at your list, I think your target category Category:All articles that are too technical (3,410) is not a great choice: I see articles towards the top like Conor McGregor, Jackson 5, Malaysia, and Miami-Dade County, Florida. All of these are members of the target category due to transclusion {{technical inline}}, which produces [jargon].
All of these would easily be fixed by a simple rewording or explanation of a single term: none of the examples would benefit from an LLM summary.
I don't necessarily think the basic idea is terrible, which I've bolded for emphasis. We do have a lot of articles that are written at a level most appropriate to grad students or professionals in a niche scientific field. Of course, any LLM summary of these articles would have to be sanity-checked by a human who actually understands the article, to ensure the LLM summarises it without introducing errors.
For that reason I think that if you're convinced of the utility of this process, you should start very slow, select a small number of articles in different fields, post the LLM summaries with proper attribution in your userspace, and notify appropriate WikiProjects to see if anyone is interested in double checking them, or working to incorporate more accessible wording into the summarised articles. If no one has any interest, there's no realistic future for this. Folly Mox (talk) 15:28, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't the current consensus that we cannot allow AI-written text because of questionable copyright status? Primefac (talk) 17:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is no ban AFAIK, just that editors need to be careful and check the LLM didn't spit out copyrighted text back at them (or closely paraphrased, etc.). I think this is less of a risk with the proposed use case, which is taking existing Wikipedia text and cutting it down.
I agree with Folly Mox mostly, if you think this is going to be useful, try it on a very small scale and see how it goes. Legoktm (talk) 19:00, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what formal consensus looks like on the LLM copyright issue. Wikipedia:Large language models § Copyright violations is pretty scant, and of course it's not policy. m:Wikilegal/Copyright Analysis of ChatGPT concludes in part with all possibilities remain open, as key cases about AI and copyright remain unresolved. The heftiest discussion I was able to find lazily is Wikipedia talk:Large language models/Archive 1 § Copyrights (January 2023); there is also this essay. Folly Mox (talk) 20:54, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I kinda wonder how reliable LLMs are at simplifying content without making it misleading/wrong in the process. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:30, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They aren't. Even setting aside the resources they waste and the exploitative labor on which they rely, they're just not suited for the purpose. Asking editors with subject-matter expertise to "sanity check" their output is just a further demand on the time and energy of volunteers who are already stretched too thin. XOR'easter (talk) 22:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some examples: User:JPxG/LLM_demonstration#Plot_summary_condensation_(The_Seminar) and Wikipedia:Using_neural_network_language_models_on_Wikipedia/Transcripts#New York City. Legoktm (talk) 17:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, but if you don't know the subject material, then you're not in a position to judge whether ChatGPT did a good job or not. XOR'easter (talk) 22:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects with curly apostrophes

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For every article with an apostrophe in the title (e.g. Piglet's Big Game, it strikes me it would be useful to have a bot create a redirect with a curly apostrophe (e.g. Piglet’s Big Game).

This could also be done for curly quotes.

Once done, this could be repeated on a scheduled basis for new articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:27, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The justification for creating redirects with ASCII hyphen-minus to pages titled with en-dashes is that en-dashes are hard for people to type since they aren't on most keyboards. The opposite would be the case with curly quotes: straight quotes and apostrophes are on most people's keyboards while curly versions are not. This seems like another one that would be better proposed at WP:Village pump (proposals) to see if people actually want this.
Further complicating this is that the bot would need a reliable algorithm for deciding when to use versus . The general algorithm may need to be part of the community approval. Anomie 12:50, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This probably isn't a useful thing to be doing; as Anomie says ' is almost often shown as ' during regular typing, and curly apostrophes are often Office-related auto-changes. I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to a bot fixing in-text curly apostrophes, but we shouldn't be proactively creating redirects. Primefac (talk) 13:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think straight versus curly for single and double quotes is mostly an OS thing. When I tap on the redlink Piglet’s Big Game and close out the editor, I get {{Did you mean box}} linking the valid title at the top of the page; if I search for the title with &fulltext=0 I'm redirected to the bluelink. The curly apostrophe also resolves to the straight apostrophe if typed into the search box.
Really, the piece missing here – if any – is automated fixing of redlinks with curly punctuation in the target.
User:Citation bot replaces curly apostrophes and double quotes with ASCII versions within citation template parameters, even though Module:CS1 renders them identically. Some user scripts are capable of doing a gsub over an entire article, like User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/DraftCleaner.js. (I know this isn't directly related to the OP, but tangentially related to the suggestion just above.)
I suppose the genesis of this request was this Help desk request? Folly Mox (talk) 15:15, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will also note that a curly quote is on the title blacklist, so it should be the case that we shouldn't even be accidentally creating these in the first place. Primefac (talk) 16:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I added that to the blacklist because I was tired of articles being created with curly quotes and having to move them to the correct title, when that's almost never correct. The intend wasn't to block redirects with curly quotes.
Nevertheless, I oppose this because we already have a {{did you mean box}} warning for the situation, and that's sufficient.
Finally, if this is done, it definitely needs some logic to auto-retarget and G7 any redirects that have diverged from their sources, as AnomieBOT already does for dashes. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:30, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bot for replacing/archiving 13,000 dead citations for New Zealand charts

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Dead citations occur due to the website changing the URL format. For example https://nztop40.co.nz/chart/albums?chart=3467 is now https://aotearoamusiccharts.co.nz/archive/albums/1991-08-09.
Case 1: 9,025 pages that are using these URLs found through search. Some may already be archived.
Case 2: 4,133 citations using {{cite certification|region=New Zealand}} and {{Certification Table Entry|region=New Zealand}}, categorized Category:Cite certification used for New Zealand with missing archive (30).

An ideal transition seems difficult as it would require the following steps:

  1. Find an archived version through the wayback machine, e.g., https://web.archive.org/web/20240713231341/https://nztop40.co.nz/chart/albums?chart=3467 for the above. For case 2 this requires inferring the URL first (https://nztop40.co.nz/chart/{{#switch:{{{type|}}}|album={{#if:{{{domestic|}}}|nzalbums|albums}}|compilation=compilations|single={{#if:{{{domestic|}}}|nzsingles|singles}}}}?chart={{{id|}}}))
  2. Harvest the date 11 August 1991 either from the rendered archived page or from the archived page source, <p id="p_calendar_heading">11 August 1991</p>
  3. For case 1, translate the URL accordingly to https://aotearoamusiccharts.co.nz/archive/albums/1991-08-11.
  4. For case 2, add |source=newchart and replace |id=1991-08-11.

Note that for case 1, the word after "/archive/" changed according to the following incomplete table. For case 2 this is handled by the template so no need to worry about it.

Old text New text
albums albums
singles singles
nzalbums aotearoa-albums
nzsingles aotearoa-singles

If someone is willing to go through the above, at least for simple cases, I think it is the ideal solution, especially for case 2. Failing that, a simpler archiving procedure can be taken.

  • For case 1: add |archive-url= and |archive-date= per usual archiving procedure. Add |url-status=deviated. If no archive exists (which should be a minority), add {{dead link}}
  • For case 2: add |archive-url= and |archive-date= per usual archiving procedure as they are supported by the templates. Add |source=oldchart (even if no archive is found)

I will be happy to support any technical assistance. Muhandes (talk) 15:08, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Muhandes, I believe WP:URLREQ is the place for requests like these. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:56, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I thought case 2 above will require a post here, but I'll repost there. Muhandes (talk) 22:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Basketball biography infobox request

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On the basketball biography infobox, all instances of |HOF_player= and |HOF_coach= should just be |HOF= as there is no actual difference between the two. The issue can be seen on Lenny Wilkens where both parameters are used and link to the same page. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 19:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Sharman appears to not hold to that trend, so it would appear that it is not true to say "all" instances must be changed. I will also note that there are only 79 instances of both parameters even appearing in the same article, so this is too small a task for a bot (try WP:AWBREQ or just tweak things manually). Primefac (talk) 20:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I meant that even single instances of |HOF_player= and |HOF_coach= should be moved to |HOF=, allowing the removal of the first two parameters within the infobox itself. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:31, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the other two parameters are reasonable alternate parameters, it would make more sense to have them as alternate parameters rather than edit every page using any single parameter. Primefac (talk) 20:36, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They are redundant as they both link to the same exact page as there is no official designation between being inducted as a player or coach into the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And yet, Bill Sharman uses both parameters with different values in them. The might have the same base URL, but clearly the values passed to them can be different. Primefac (talk) 20:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it does seem like there are separate pages to represent an inductee's playing and coaching accomplishments despite there being no official difference between the two, as per Bill Sharman. In that case, I suppose there must be more of a consensus to merge/remove the parameters before this can be implemented. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:04, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Meanings of minor-planet names

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Should we move to a hyphenated version of "minor-planet" instead of without hyphen for "minor planet", which is moved per Talk:Minor-planet designation#Requested move 21 September 2021, by numbers ranging from 100001–101000 to 500001–501000. Absolutiva (talk) 16:20, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reference examination bot

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I want a bot to help me.can anyome pls help me with this. Wiki king 100000 (talk) 07:46, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please elaborate further? – DreamRimmer (talk) 10:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
guessing from the title, I think they want the bot to fact-check the reference or something similar that. —usernamekiran (talk) 13:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes the same. Actually my english spelling problem. Wiki king 100000 (talk) 17:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replacing FastilyBot

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Now that Fastily has retired, FastilyBot is no longer running. Any chance of a replacement? On the bot's deleted userpage, one can see that it ran 17 tasks and updated 31 database reports. plicit 14:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have written code to update ten database reports. – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:48, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have restored the userpage to Special:Permalink/1258404221 for tracking purposes. If anyone needs any of the code from any of the subpages, please let me know. Primefac (talk) 14:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am taking over the following database reports: 4, 11, 12, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 26, 28, 29, 30, and 31. – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
DreamRimmer, given the availability of the sql queries https://github.com/fastily/fastilybot-toolforge/tree/master/scripts, it might be better to convert the pages to usse {{Database report}}. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I second this suggestion for database reports. I converted Wikipedia:Database reports/Transclusions of non-existent templates (number 18 on the list) to use {{database report}}, and after fixing a couple of bonehead oversights on my part, it is working well and more functional than the previous report. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have spent time writing code to update these database reports. There are some config files for certain database reports, so I have included functionality to exclude files from the report that transclude any templates or belong to any category listed in the config file. Database reports cannot do that, but I have no problem if you all want to use SDZeroBot's database reports. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
DreamRimmer, I agree that if it's not possible or feasible to use {{Database report}}, it makes sense for you to handle it; but where we can, it's nice to have some kind of standardisation for the reports. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll look into taking over the deletion discussion notifier. DatGuyTalkContribs 16:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BRFA filed DatGuyTalkContribs 23:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Current progress

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Just creating a table below for a quick idea of which tasks (based on Special:Permalink/1258404221) are being handled. Please add ~~~~~ at the bottom if you update things. Primefac (talk) 12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Original task Description New Task
1 Replace {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}, for local files which are already on Commons, with {{Now Commons}}.
2 Remove {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}} from ineligible files.
3 Report on malformed SPI pages.
5 Add {{Wrong-license}} to files with conflicting (free & non-free) licensing information.
7 Replace {{Now Commons}}, for local files which are nominated for deletion on Commons, with {{Nominated for deletion on Commons}}.
8 Replace {{Nominated for deletion on Commons}}, for local files which have been deleted on Commons, with {{Deleted on Commons}}.
9 Remove {{Nominated for deletion on Commons}} from files which are no longer nominated for deletion on Commons.
11 Fill in missing date parameter for select usages of {{Now Commons}}.
13 Post various database reports to Wikipedia:Database reports.
17 Remove instances of {{FFDC}} which reference files that are no longer being discussed at FfD.
15 Remove {{Now Commons}} from file description pages which also translcude {{Keep local}}
14 Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are proposed for deletion. DatBot 12
4 Remove {{Orphan image}} from free files which are not orphaned. DreamRimmer bot 3
6 Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are nominated for dated deletion. DatBot 12
10 Add {{Orphan image}} to orphaned free files. DreamRimmer bot 2
12 Leave courtesy notifications for uploaders (who were not notified) when their files are nominated for discussion. DatBot 12
16 Leave courtesy notifications for article authors (who were not notified) when their contributions are proposed for deletion. DatBot 12

12:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Requesting for bot help to nominate 156 navboxes for deletion (listed above). These navboxes are for teams that finished lower than third place in the Olympic basketball tournaments. Such templates are subject to WP:TCREEP and were previously deleted per May 31, 2021, April 22, 2020, June 7, 2019, and March 29, 2019 (first, second and third) discussions (to name a few). – sbaio 17:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe one day I'll complete User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD and things like this will be much easier.— Qwerfjkltalk 17:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is very easy to list these templates at TFD as a batch. Someone with AWB should be able to help you apply the correct TFD template to all of them. Notification of the templates' creators might also be not-too-hard with AWB, especially if you provide a list of those editors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ill tag them, if I could get the editors users ill notify as well.  Working with AWB. Geardona (talk to me?) 23:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I would like to kindly request that all articles, categories, files, etc. within the Category:Cinema of Belgium be tagged with the newly created Belgian cinema task force. This will help streamline efforts to improve the quality and coverage of Belgian cinema-related content on Wikipedia. Earthh (talk) 11:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How far down? I went down 3 levels and found Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, which does not seem likely. Primefac (talk) 13:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick clarification: please tag all entries in the Category:Cinema of Belgium with the Belgian cinema task force, except for the entries of the following categories, as they may include films that are not necessarily Belgian:

Thanks for your help! --Earthh (talk) 13:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've cross-posted this to WP:AWB/TASKS as I think it's small enough for manual addition (though I may have miscounted, will check when I get home later). Primefac (talk) 14:35, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @Earthh, as Primefac suggested, this can be done at WP:AWB/TA. This query with depth of 2 shows 717, and 86 with depth 1. Could you clarify on that. Also, what template changes are you suggesting? Like what should one tag it with? ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your patience as I worked through the depth question. For this request:
The template to use is: {{WikiProject Film|Belgian-task-force=yes}}. Let me know if there are any issues or further clarifications needed.--Earthh (talk) 18:35, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If it's over 700 it does push it a little into the bot territory, but if we can nail down a final number that would be best. Primefac (talk) 20:13, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This one for Category:Belgian films and this for Category:Cinema of Belgium shows 717+956=1673 total. Is that right? @Earthh Also, all these pages are already tagged with film banner right, only the param is required? ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 04:45, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1682 for Category:Belgian films and 1189 for Category:Cinema of Belgium, including articles, files, templates, categories and portals. If these are already tagged with the film banner, |Belgian=yes or |Belgian-task-force=yes parameters will be enough. Earthh (talk) 15:48, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
will file a brfa tomorrow.
Not a big deal, but If these are already tagged means are they or not? ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:57, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just as a note of caution, per WP:Film#Scope, {{WikiProject Film}} should not be added to biographical articles/categories/etc., which should use {{WikiProject Biography|filmbio-work-group=yes}}.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  16:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're absolutely right. For entries tagged with {{WikiProject Film}}, the parameter |Belgian=yes should be used. For entries tagged with {{WikiProject Biography}}, the parameter |cinema=yes should be added to {{WikiProject Belgium}}. However, it seems that this parameter is not yet supported. I've submitted an edit request on Template talk:WikiProject Belgium to address this. Earthh (talk) 22:35, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Tom for the disclaimer.
@Earthh I shall do it like this. Replace {{WikiProject Film with {{WikiProject Film|Belgian=yes similarly {{WikiProject Biography with {{WikiProject Biography|cinema=yes For the pages in both above petscan queries. Is that fine? ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 10:24, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your availability.
For the entries in both Petscan queries, {{WikiProject Belgium}} should be replaced or added as {{WikiProject Belgium|cinema=yes}} if not already present. Earthh (talk) 18:32, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BRFA filed. Now time to wait! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:59, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Earthh: {{WikiProject Film|Belgian=yes}} should be used per Template:WikiProject Film#National and Regional task forces.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  12:38, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They are both in use at the moment; the one you suggested is definitely shorter :) Earthh (talk) 15:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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There are presumably hundreds of articles about calendar years (for example, 671) that contain the text "link will display the full calendar".

I believe this text violates the spirit of WP:CLICKHERE, specifically:

phrases like "click here" should be avoided [...] In determining what language is most suitable, it may be helpful to imagine writing the article for a print encyclopedia

The text "link will display the full calendar" would of course make no sense in a print encyclopedia, so I think it should be deleted. Given the number of articles that this text appears in, this deletion would best be done by a bot. Stephen Hui (talk) 07:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A total of 1562 pages use this wording. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:22, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
DreamRimmer, Stephen Hui, this has been discussed before at Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 84#(link will display the full calendar). — Qwerfjkltalk 11:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]